Admins should not be able to ban if they are a part of a situation

[kodakboswell]

I think it should be changed that admins cannot ban someone if they are a part of the scene. There is too many times ive seen people ban for "disruptive behavior" due to a criminal talking smack to cops and the cops get in their feelings and just smack that ban. I feel they should have to report it and have an admin who was not a part of the scene to handle it. It makes it less bias and more fair. Also when someone makes an appeal the banning admin should not be the one to answer the appeal. That takes away from the purpose. You appeal a ban to get a second opinion. Not to get told the same thing from the banning admin. These are 2 things i believe should change. 

[Samantha Hatfield]

I think Staff Reports and Player reports should be open but not able to be replied to by any other party. It leads to transparency, and allows us to see how it's handled from a unbiased point of view. This would also allow us (the player) to find any new rule grey area's and to make sure not to fall for the same grey area and to avoid it. Instead of waiting months for Staff to clarify any rule grey area's.

Communication in-general is what the server needs, the player-base in my eyes is left very out of the loop and should be given insight to ensure quality is occurring amongst the community and that target goals are achieved.

[Timr]

@kodakboswell All staff members are trusted to have good judgement and ability to execute their duties of enforcing server rules. Staff involved in scenes are no different than staff spectating scenes; if a rule break occurs then action will be taken. If you or anyone is seeking a second opinion on a ban appeal, they may request that it be reviewed by someone higher up the chain of command than the banning admin.

[CeeTee]

The only time a criminal is getting banned for "talking shit" is if they are being overly vulgar saying stuff they shouldn't be saying.

Now I 100% agree that the banning admin should not be the admin who reviews the ban appeal but the bottom line truly is, just RP within the lines of the rules and you will never have a problem.

[Ari]

I agree that a banning admin shouldn't be in on an appeal if there is bias. However, if it were me, I'd request someone else IN my appeal at that point.

There are numerous reasons someone can be banned here, and most of it, I assume, is small fries. Talk to the banning admin, get your side out. Hash it out. Done.
For something like that, why waste another admin's time?

But like CK said above, if you're RPing in the rules, you shouldn't have a problem. And if someone is salty about something (on any side), they should take a step away from the computer, go touch grass or something, and come back when cooled off and go from there.

[Mars Chambers]

@kodakboswell This is something I normally agree with, however badlands and personal experience kind of changed my mind about it.

I originally came from a server that didn't allow staff to roleplay. I was a General Admin and I literally just spectated players for hours and refunded items etc. And maybe at times ran events. It got old, and signing on as admin literally became a tough job where I didn't get paid and wasn't fun at all.

What we need to recognize is that in order for staff to enjoy doing what they do. They need to be able to play. And in order for them to be able to play they also need to be able to actively do their job, because we always need them.

I had an issue with @Timr once where I had felt that him banning me was unnecessary. (He unbanned me after we spoke, we both had reasonable points. I was more on the losing side but its a long story and its all said an done thankfully because I was very abrasive and probably deserved to stay banned for a bit.)
That being said, Badlands looks at ban appeals quite frequently, and as much as it may be annoying that you need to post a ban appeal if you think there was a miscommunication or something. The trade off is that you don't have an admin team that's burnt out. And I would much rather have that then I grumpy burnt out admin that cant wait to complete their shift before they can hop on their RP character where they can't protect the server from rulebreakers etc.

The reason this server is here is because the staff are roleplayers. Not allowing them to participate while doing their job would only make it seem like another job for them which is ultimately negatively impacting for everyone.

Now I mean, this is just my opinion. I don't speak for the admin team obviously. However, this response is based off of my experience helping run a community much like this once. So in conclusion I totally understand your suggestion though, because humans can sometimes be really biased. But for badlands I think this has been very beneficial.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Mars Chambers