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Hey everyone, earlier I been in a situation that explains why I am writing this, so lets being.  Let's think about this, cops normally have this tactic to put you inside a box with their cars where you are stuck inside of it with no way to escape. Now usually you can use these if you see an opening:  A. Run on foot and eventually get caught.  B. Try to find a small gap which sometimes happens yes.  But when there is no A or B you are stuck with: C. Which is ramming into the cops cars.  If you don't use C, well shit too bad for you, you gonna have to step out of the car and put your hands up, this sounds anti-climatic when you are being chased by cops, and sometimes this will go against your character personality to just give up.  Now one would say why to go with C. well it's because of the situation you in, specifically in a cops chase. The VDM rule should only apply to people being silly/stupid/dumb/angry when they ram into other cars for the sake of having fun. Now if we gonna use an IRL example: I can link different gifs or videos that showcases "criminals" ramming into cops cars or people, but this is not the point I guess.  The point here is it about the situation you in that should make it valid to ram into cars.  Thanks for reading, and I hope this sounds fair.    Â

I'm starting this post to check what is the general view in the server about what's RMD and what is not. I think it's important for the community to debate on it, and the admins to clarify it better. Since Badlands RP is not hardcore RP but I hope it doesn't turn into a shooter game. I'm going to use a few incidents as example to start the debate:. First situation that it's a bit on the edge. Player A is driving around at normal city speed, passes by player B that aims to them and says "Keep moving or I'll shoot" and without giving more than a couple seconds player B shoots player A. I don't have a recording of this but happened just like it's described, and this post is not about what happened is more about clarifying how things are to know the rule better.  Second scene, it has two parts. I was chilling out under the shade of the peach tree in my car, when two players come pull a gun on me and tell me to get away. I simply do, after having situation one a few days ago, don't even stop to talk or try to RP, I just press my keys and move away. Sadly I don't have a video of the peaches gathering because you know... peaches I wasn't expecting that and try to avoid recording hours of peach gathering Since there are no cops online, I simply choose to do the white knight thing. So I go to the peaches place, park on the back and wait. The players show up, one of them is in voice asking if anyone is around, since there is a broken down player car left by the peaches sell point. I'm up on the roof trying to get a decent angle and when I'm good for it, I start the RP. You have the video here:  Wrapping this up. This is not a post about whining or been a sore looser. Hey, I even have to agree that how the second situation could even consider good karma. What this post is about is the rules, making them a bit more clear so we all understand them and we play within them. After all, RP and GTA are games, and like in Poker for a game to be fair all players should know the rules at the start of the game. I understand that some situation sure need to be judged by admins, but I would love more detail on the current rule. I don't like to push the rules, but, like most of the players, don't like to go down just because others push them too far.   So the current rule is:  Possible reads of the situations used as example with the current rule:  Scene 1. - So in the first case, surprised about the aggressive interaction, I guess I didn't step on the gas quick enough. That could count as a valid reason to kill me, I guess ((If the rule works that way don't know how it enhances RP, seems nearly GTAO, in my opinion.)) - Other read is that in fact was a RDM.  (Even not too good RP, I took it as the first option, and moved on. But it matters for how I reacted on the second case.).   Scene 2. There are many possible ways of playing the scene if I focus in the rule as it's written down.  - All was there was some RP and then shots were fired. - Since 9315 was just moving around and never spoke till the shooting happened that one could be called RDM, because the only RP he did was pulling his hands up. And he sure has voice since he spoke after the shooting. - I could have fired on 9315 since he did take some time to pull his hands up. - Or even, since they pulled a gun on me, at the gathering peaches area, I could have just moved away to a safe distance and then just shoot them down, right there. ((Once more, that's not much RP in my opinion...))   I guess there are many other ways the rule could have been understood. My point is that Badlands RP is meant for RP, I know it's not hardcore RP but as GTA works, it's very easy to aim to someone without a gun, swap and fire away. That simply doesn't happen in RL, it takes more time. And RP wise, playing a super trained shooter that draws fast is powergaming, but once again I'm gonna guess that's not considered in the rules.  Personally, I can live with it. I just want to know what is the rule exactly to I can play along that. But truthfully I hope this post starts a debate that helps the RP in the server instead of just creating drama. Â