the rule of Voice Identification should be removed

[Fletch_a_Sketch]

Pros
- Useful to use Meta in identifying people in a manner to understand if they are constantly robbing spree/involved in certain events (THAT ARE CAUSING NOTABLE DISRUPTION TO RP OR BEING GREEDY/NOT ALLOWING OTHERS TO TRY EVENTS) even if they are in different disguises.

Cons
- When they give effort to try to change their voice and dont have access to a voice changing software (because they can cause problems/crash ts or fivem), they get Meta'd and then the whole scenario becomes altered due to the fact even if no other slip up / indication of their character in the scenario occurs.
- Ruins the point of visually changing ones appearance in game if they cant hide their voice well enough even with attempts to swing some abnormal vocals into the rp
- Its basically META in the easiest way possible

[vDrop]

I wouldn't call it meta at all. I understand some people can't change there accent, or voice at all, but the rule itself protects from as you already stated. LEO's put a lot of time into what they are doing, the good ones gather evidence, some even go out of the way to recognize a tattoo someone specifically has with a series of other tattoo's, body features, etc. With that in mind, people go out of there way to recognize someone's voice, behaviors, personality. Sure it can be equally frustrating that someone is identified by voice, but there's ways around in even through RP that I can't tell you because that would be meta lol, but there is ways to communicate, without using your voice. I know stating , get creative isn't going to be the correct answer, personally HATE that response from LEO's to Criminals. 

I'll give you a plus though it 100% makes it hard for those that cannot physically change there voice or use a voice changer. But removing the rule, I believe would cause more issues than it would fix.

[Randy Jones]

Here is my thing. If you put absolutely no effort into trying to disguise your identity, wear the same outfit to every robbery, and don't even try to disguise your voice I'm gonna identify you. But If someone is putting on a fake voice covering their face and just overall putting effort into disguising themselves, even if I know who it is or can still tell it's their voice I reward that in rp by not issuing a warrant. 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Randy Jones

[McPikey - Fast J]

To clarify there is no "rule" on voice ID. If the officer/deputy is confident enough to go to court over it, that's up to them. Everyone has the option to plead not guilty and pursue it in court if they feel they can prove the officer mis-identified or didn't have the information to fully identify. There is no "meta" there in 99.9% of cases, and if you feel that someone is using meta, put an IA and/or player report. I've been an officer a long time around here, as long as you put solid effort into hiding identity it won't be an issue to give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Mefcy]

It is definitely not meta.

Arresting the same people everyday who use the same cars/clothes/colors/disguises/voice cops will catch on and begin to put voices to names/faces. Obviously if there is a guy with a mask we identify as John Doe via voice and the registered vehicle comes back to John Doe LEO's will put a warrant out for him. 
So this should not be an issue unless you have two characters in the same group which hopefully not, because that would be meta in the easiest way possible.

[Ascendancism]

13 hours ago, Remington said:

It is definitely not meta.

Arresting the same people everyday who use the same cars/clothes/colors/disguises/voice cops will catch on and begin to put voices to names/faces. Obviously if there is a guy with a mask we identify as John Doe via voice and the registered vehicle comes back to John Doe LEO's will put a warrant out for him. 
So this should not be an issue unless you have two characters in the same group which hopefully not, because that would be meta in the easiest way possible.

I 100% agree with everything you said. The issue is there are officers that use ONLY voice nothing else. Don't want to name names in this community, but we have several officers and criminals that have multiple characters and they do not change their voice over any of them. Either because they cannot or chose not to but that isn't the point. Considering I've put an active effort to change my voice yet still get a warrant based on voice recognition because I said a specific phrase or line is very frustrating. I do believe that a rule should be implemented that voice recognition cannot be utilized solely to identify a criminal like it has in the past. Now if other factors indicate evidence such as Cars & Clothes than voice could also be used. I've had several officers read out my warrant in the cells & to be identified PURELY by voice imo to a degree is meta. Also someone (not going to say who) was arrested a little while back on a different character purely because the cops thought they were someone else based on their voice. (fortunately they were cut loose after being ID'd).

[MrBigRed]

23 hours ago, Ascendancism said:

 Considering I've put an active effort to change my voice yet still get a warrant based on voice recognition because I said a specific phrase or line is very frustrating.

I'm not a cop, I haven't been since 1.0, but I think this sentence right here harkens back to:

 

On 12/24/2021 at 5:58 AM, vDrop said:

LEO's put a lot of time into what they are doing, the good ones gather evidence, some even go out of the way to recognize a tattoo someone specifically has with a series of other tattoo's, body features, etc. With that in mind, people go out of there way to recognize someone's voice, behaviors, personality. 

If you're on the same character and you use the same phrases or what have you even with a voice changer, that's definitely grounds to identify you, imho. Think about real life, if there's some criminal who the police know, and they show up to a scene and the person has modified their voice, but they use their "catchphrase", I'd say good on the LEO for knowing the criminal well enough to identify that. 

 

I know people are at all different levels of roleplay, some are more experienced than others, but the zero effort, "I'm going to change my clothes and put a mask on, now no one can know who I am without looking at my ID or fingerprinting me" is kinda bogus. 

 

Just my 2¢