Reviving Paeleto bay

[jayceon Taylor]

As someone that stays in the city the majority of the time while in city I think we need a more attraction to bring up there give the lost some rp the only place in the city in my opinion gets over looked for adding new stuff maybe a bar I know the city doesn’t want more bars but we gotta have some reason to travel up there it’s a nice place just not enough attractions to go up there

[balls]

As a part of Lost MC who has lived in Paleto Bay for the past year, I agree. I fairly recently tried to bring the idea of a bar in Paleto and it was a no. But you're right, Paleto has been neglected and offers nothing for the average person. That said I believe there are potentially things in the works.

[Noble]

As a resident of Paleto I agree. I know someone who wants to being a nail salon up there as well as a pet store. With the pet store being the obvious reasons for people to come up there.

Paleto used to have the Mojito which was open rarely so it offered good reasons for people to come up there once it was. But yeah. I agree more activities etc should come to Paleto. We are open for people building their businesses up here, stores etc. Bring it up we're friendly folk!

[Titus]

Why does it have to be a store or business from the get go? Paleto is known for the lost... okay, go from there... Start small, maybe the lost host a weekly bike rally open to all, not just the 1%ers, and with that could come sponsorships, etc. Get police escorts, flyovers from the plane dudes, ppl set up with fireworks along the route.... I dunno off the top of my head how to keep it spicy week to week but it's a start. Get the food trucks there, maybe alter the time weekly so those on other playtimes can participate... boom... now you got a whole bunch of interactions that could lead to potential businesses, opportunities, etc. I'd say give a good shake at RP before resorting to bars / trinket shops that will bring in the occasional passerby.

[jayceon Taylor]

9 hours ago, Titus said:

Why does it have to be a store or business from the get go? Paleto is known for the lost... okay, go from there... Start small, maybe the lost host a weekly bike rally open to all, not just the 1%ers, and with that could come sponsorships, etc. Get police escorts, flyovers from the plane dudes, ppl set up with fireworks along the route.... I dunno off the top of my head how to keep it spicy week to week but it's a start. Get the food trucks there, maybe alter the time weekly so those on other playtimes can participate... boom... now you got a whole bunch of interactions that could lead to potential businesses, opportunities, etc. I'd say give a good shake at RP before resorting to bars / trinket shops that will bring in the occasional passerby.

store / biz gives us a place to hang out and chat it up with each other without being at hideouts or our personal biz all it takes is  a food place up north and people can hang around and chit chat just like how people do at the glizzy you walk in someone you may know walks you have small convo someone over hears the convo and people join in it builds friendship i feel like the lost being so far from town they dont wanna travel to the city not know if someone of there own culture is around to talk a bar or food place is common ground and a attraction to bring all sorts of life 

 

[Titus]

Well... if you think a food place is the answer then let it happen naturally. Start with a weekly event and hire as many food trucks as you can to show up (a mini food festival lol). Keep that going for a bit. Get something going RP wise. It's easy enough to SAY I want a restaurant in Paleto, but unless there's some form of effort beforehand I don't see it happening. Also... you got someone willing to run a shop, with employees already? If so, get that business plan going. Get as much prepped beforehand, so after a month of successful food festivals and bike rallies (just examples) you got some ammo to ask the government for a food joint. That time could also be used to source opinions from potential customers, etc. I wanted my own ice cream truck... and when I found out there was a model available I started selling generic tacos and golas... The point... To show the government I was committed, able to develop a brand, able to turn a profit, and engage in good customer relations. Your Mom's Taco.... warm, moist, and a goddamn mess, nobody passes up Your Mom's Taco. So yeah... get something going... it takes a lot of work and somebody willing to do it. I truly hope to see Paleto get a face lift but ultimately it starts with the ppl there.  

[Titus]

Also... if YOU don't feel up to actually getting events going, lotsa time and effort involved, then i'd suggest sourcing it out. They got event planners, use em. Get a rock concert going or something, hire the shitter guy to drop a bunch of porta-johns, get that big party bus with the speakers, you already have a couple great locations in Paleto for that... So in the few minutes it took me to write this I came up with 3 potential ideas to breath life into Paleto... I'm sure the ppl who actually live there have plenty more suggestions... Just need someone to put them into play..... Shiiiit, do all 3 at once. Start with a bike rally, end point being the concert, and have it lined with food trucks... i'd come to that for sure. 

Edited September 4, 2022 by Titus

[Samantha Hatfield]

2 hours ago, Titus said:

Well... if you think a food place is the answer then let it happen naturally. Start with a weekly event and hire as many food trucks as you can to show up (a mini food festival lol). Keep that going for a bit. Get something going RP wise. It's easy enough to SAY I want a restaurant in Paleto, but unless there's some form of effort beforehand I don't see it happening. Also... you got someone willing to run a shop, with employees already? If so, get that business plan going. Get as much prepped beforehand, so after a month of successful food festivals and bike rallies (just examples) you got some ammo to ask the government for a food joint. That time could also be used to source opinions from potential customers, etc. I wanted my own ice cream truck... and when I found out there was a model available I started selling generic tacos and golas... The point... To show the government I was committed, able to develop a brand, able to turn a profit, and engage in good customer relations. Your Mom's Taco.... warm, moist, and a goddamn mess, nobody passes up Your Mom's Taco. So yeah... get something going... it takes a lot of work and somebody willing to do it. I truly hope to see Paleto get a face lift but ultimately it starts with the ppl there.  

As an enforcer for the club, and being with it for quite some time now. We've done all that, and then some. That's how the mojito was birthed years ago. It all started as a Taco Truck in Mirror Park when the club was established there. Mojito was the biggest attraction to Paleto, but it was owned by one of our members and they tried to not make it look like it was Lost Property.

Which is fine it's their business, but when Mojito was open people knew Lost were around and that's probably when to try and RP with them and hang out, but when they left, they took a LOT with them, not just Mojito but from the club as-well within roleplay.

Since then, we've continued to show effort in ways and pitched ideas but no luck. When will that luck be? I don't know, we looked into Hen House as a Biker Bar type atmosphere got told no, after looking into that for a well, we tried to do other ideas as well, got told no. I currently have been working on the Tattoo Business in Paleto, it provides great RP but it's not something that is sociable and will keep people coming and making Paleto feel like a community. We are a community, but what can we do to keep people coming back and show love to Paleto.

I've heard a lot about the Tattoo Shop, I hear people love it and I have many plans for it that I put into my business application some not even on paper, so we have that roleplay going for us. We've had rallies, we've done biker events, and even have one planned soon. But the expectation you have from what I'm seeing is that we do it constantly, and weekly. That's just not something we can do, people have lives and we try to be around and put forth a story when we can. I want to point out, that I'm not discouraged I'm not mad, but if other people are saying damn Paleto is nice now, it's not like the old days but it needs something to help it as there is nothing, then why not? It has to be organic through RP correct, but a simple reach out wouldn't hurt to see what we are thinking after we've put the effort in for the past several months.

My final statement I want to add is this, If you aren't apart of us from the inside, then you don't know what efforts we've put forth unless you are apart of the staff team and you are watching from an OOC perspective, whether that be the time we sat for hours thinking with ideas, or the going out and putting forth the RP.

[Levi, Noah]

As the VP of the lost mc and apart of Paleto for almost a year as a club we’ve been rebuilding and trying to get the club back to it once was and trust me it wasn’t easy especially previous members left it like they did but let’s not to that but yeah I can say we are stable enough to host events and stuff and trust me we will host bike rally’s and community things but yeah I love that people are seeing how we see it paleto hasn’t got much anymore and as other stated we’re happy for non members to have a business or anything up in paleto all the club will do is protect that business with no tax  it’s all for rp and I am looking forward of the future of the club and it’s home  

[Atryus]

Since the rest of the club seems to have commented I’ll just say my goal as president of the lost is to become mayor for Paleto. We have plans for cool shit for paleto already in the works that people will like. We have plans for a sturgis like event just as mentioned needed to get the club on the path the club wanted to be on first and foremost. 
 

my first act as the future mayor of paleto is to open a steak house. And not like Texas Roadhouse I’m talking like a sketchy ass truck stop no one knows about but serves the best damn food you have ever eaten cooked by a dude who absolutely sweat on your steak and most likely got cig ash on the plate. The beer is always too cold or not cold enough but the way it’s served makes it so much better and it’s always fresh like it just came from the brewery and it’s always import beers you never heard of before. On top of that the whole look of it will be like a Wild West salon. 
 

then we are going to put a party raft in the water with a working water slide (Timr said he can do this 100% don’t believe anything else he says) and finally as stage 3 of my plan we are going to build a ball pit where everyone except Bella can use. 
 

we will also ban Easton from stepping 100 feet within Paleto. If he breaks this he will have to pay for someone’s repair at the repair shop as part of community service. 
 

this is gods plan for Paleto. He told me. Vote Paul Rezonoff for mayor. 

Edited September 4, 2022 by Atryus

[Titus]

Well.. if you can't do a once a week event why would higher give you a full time business... I'm seeing no effort here. Expect someone else to do it? Over the past year and a half i've seen less than half a dozen event adds for Paleto... I used to have a connect with the lost but that got "lost" due to no interaction. What bike rallys? If its for friends only sure, but ol Titus hasn't had a chance to break out his chopper since a biker wedding about a year ago. How about this... permission granted, you get a restaurant, now whos gonna fill it? How will it not be another mojitos? Again, see no effort, just a lot of let someone else do it.... Get that rock concert going and I'm there 100%

[Samantha Hatfield]

4 hours ago, Titus said:

Well.. if you can't do a once a week event why would higher give you a full time business... I'm seeing no effort here. Expect someone else to do it? Over the past year and a half i've seen less than half a dozen event adds for Paleto... I used to have a connect with the lost but that got "lost" due to no interaction. What bike rallys? If its for friends only sure, but ol Titus hasn't had a chance to break out his chopper since a biker wedding about a year ago. How about this... permission granted, you get a restaurant, now whos gonna fill it? How will it not be another mojitos? Again, see no effort, just a lot of let someone else do it.... Get that rock concert going and I'm there 100%

If you are expecting us, people with OOC lives who have other duties to do a weekly event every week; I stated that it's not something everyone can do. At this point, we've all stated we've put effort, but you are stating there hasn't been. We try, and we do too the best of our ability. The last one was a few months back, before the rebuild.

If you aren't up here, (which you haven't) and you aren't with us then you don't know what we've been doing. Maybe take a gander up north, and have a sit down with us. It's a new club, new people, new era, people businesses change. Not trying to be disrespectful, but it seems the way you are coming off is uber-aggressive because you haven't gotten anything yet. Everyone is equal at the end of the day. We are all here for the same reasons.

As stated, if you aren't with us, you haven't know the efforts we put forth. If you haven't been up in Paleto, then you don't know what all we've done to make it a community, not a place where in the past people were scared because of our old leaders.

[Samantha Hatfield]

Also events don't make or break it, but it seems that is what you are mainly focusing on. We've worked on plenty of other aspects, story, and rping out businesses to actually get them into the city.

[Levi, Noah]

Because you’ve not seen ads doesn’t mean we ain’t working towards things man. And like I stated before we’ve got stuff planned but we’ve been hella busy rebuilding and rebranding the club 

[Kota]

4 hours ago, Sierra said:

As stated, if you aren't with us, you haven't know the efforts we put forth. If you haven't been up in Paleto, then you don't know what all we've done to make it a community, not a place where in the past people were scared because of our old leaders.

As one of the old leaders the old crew which literally none of the current lost members were apart of at the time of working hard and trying to obtain the restaurant. We sure didn't have to run to the forums to cry and complain about not getting stuff from staff.  Especially in your case after just a few months of taking over a crew that was already established for 5 years. We put in the work and the effort and let the RP tell our story. It took almost two years of Victoria busting her ass selling tacos out of a taco truck in Mirror Park before she even got a breath of getting her own business, Badlands these days you don't even have to work a fraction of that hard to establish yourself, just make sure the idea is good and it benefits not just yourself but others and above all provides different and unique roleplay. If you are providing something of value, then you will get noticed. Maybe look around and see what you can do better and improve on. The staff team from personal experience is more than overjoyed to support a unique idea so long as it meets those standards. 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Kota

[jayceon Taylor]

5 hours ago, Kota said:

As one of the old leaders the old crew which literally none of the current lost members were apart of at the time of working hard and trying to obtain the restaurant. We sure didn't have to run to the forums to cry and complain about not getting stuff from staff.  Especially in your case after just a few months of taking over a crew that was already established for 5 years. We put in the work and the effort and let the RP tell our story. It took almost two years of Victoria busting her ass selling tacos out of a taco truck in Mirror Park before she even got a breath of getting her own business, Badlands these days you don't even have to work a fraction of that hard to establish yourself, just make sure the idea is good and it benefits not just yourself but others and above all provides different and unique roleplay. If you are providing something of value, then you will get noticed. Maybe look around and see what you can do better and improve on. The staff team from personal experience is more than overjoyed to support a unique idea so long as it meets those standards. 

I agree with you city wants something made from nothing with uniqueness for rp I respect 100 percent I’m just a outsider looking in im new to the biker culture I’m just a hang around for AOD but I been ic for a year had big Jim and killed him off after 305 phase I’m new to the biker culture I  just wanna have a reason to go up to paeleto without it seeming like we are on a business trip or looking for trouble 

[Titus]

I apologize for coming off aggressive, I re read what I posted and I can see how it could be viewed that way... However you proved my point for me. Points were made that due to ooc your group can't hold weekly events, okay, again, who's gonna work the restaurant or bar? You say a lot of work has been put in, awesome, good to hear.... "If you aren't up here, (which you haven't) and you aren't with us then you don't know what we've been doing. Maybe take a gander up north, and have a sit down with us. It's a new club, new people, new era, people businesses change." But WHY would I, or any other generic player, head north? What's the draw? And do you honestly expect some average joe to walk up to a lost and ask you what you've been working on? Not likely, unless you don pink vests and ride scooters lol... yer a gang, it's known not to meddle in gang shit or you get popped. "Because you’ve not seen ads doesn’t mean we ain’t working towards things man. And like I stated before we’ve got stuff planned but we’ve been hella busy rebuilding and rebranding the club"... Sure, rebranding takes a lot of time and effort... But again... "We try, and we do too the best of our ability. The last one (event) was a few months back, before the rebuild". 

 

So sounds like you are still working hard on internal politics / getting the NEW LOST known. That's a tall order in and of itself and I can only imagine how tough it is. But to ask for a restaurant or bar right off the hop without a solid foundation, business plan, contingencies, or even people lined up to work it... seems doomed to fail unfortunately. That's the reason why I suggested events. Ppl go to them to socialize and it would be an amazing way to show the lost's new colors. From there friendships happen and now ppl will slowly start having a reason to head north. Events was just a suggestion, not saying it was the right one for you guys but maybe build off it and make something that is your own. 

 

Again, a suggestion here... Why do ppl already head to Paleto? Shore up your base 'clients' and then brainstorm how do we get the average danny up here? Why SHOULD ppl go to Paleto, and more importantly, how do we get them coming back? Even a restaurant / bar, all the way up there (i get it, its like a 3min drive lol) might not do good as the average joe will just get their food in city since it's convenient. So again, you are looking at a core group... and it sounds like to me you want more than your regulars to experience the community up there...

So what's the draw for an average guy like me to go up there?

I may come off as pessimistic but it's more along the lines of realistic. Paleto is a cool town, and it's a nice ride to get there... Whatever you guys end up doing I hope it works. More RP is good no matter how you slice it.

[Atryus]

Idk why everyone is hung up on a restaurant? We tried for a restaurant got told to many already in the works and moved on to our next plans. Look we can’t tell people why to come up to Paleto. If your not interested in it nothing I say will change that. It’s odd that people think it falls on the lost to bring people to paleto. We do what we do. We took a city that has nothing outside of a robable bank that we don’t rob and made our own thing out of it. Myself and the club have done what’s possible for us to rebuild Paleto. Many have seen it. Many have not. The whole ad point makes no sense to me. We as a group have no need to advertise where we are. We had to start off and show some people why the new lost deserves the shot. That’s what our clubs leadership has focused on. Those that have dealt with us personally can see the changes that were made. To answer the question of who would run the restaurant we are not pushing, or any business we are, who ever the owner hires. If you personally have not heard what our club is working on setting up it’s because you don’t have a connection to us. Not everything needs a public ad. Our club prefers personal connections as opposed to an open forum it makes things more natural. Most crews in the city know exactly what our goal is. 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Atryus

[Muttbutt]

Big Hawk Taxi North .. no ? Okay