(Meta) Vehicle Seizures and the civilian cost behind them

[Fletch_a_Sketch]

Lately I've been hearing about peoples stories behind getting their vehicles completely taken / seized after their first attempts of 1-2 bad dealings that went bad... especially over the smaller jobs in the regard. There's a noticeable lack of lawyers to also be willing to defend against the idea as well... as outside of an IA report against the officer/law personal involved is pretty much the only possible means to even start to get a chance to fight the case if then. I understand agreeing to the terms of drivers licenses and such at the license department, but dumping 100k into a vehicle to just have it immediately seized after a beginning job under the books (talking the lower end jobs here not the big bangs).
I'd either like to hear of a better implemented system for these sort of actions instead of just immediately losing 100k in a car (in this case lets say) after trying to learn the ropes that are a bit shady. I'd propose a strike system or at least a system that is weighted in tiers in terms of its offensive behaviors for vehicle seizures and the reasons behind them... If anything as well there could be a system that is a temporary seizure... like say a week at time and possible a fine associated with getting the vehicle back instead of forever and a whole 100k down the drain over jobs that barely payout 10k+

I'd imagine simply robbing people or a store and going slightly off-road during a chase shouldn't entirely qualify as off-roading to the highest extent of the punishable law... especially if every other exit may be unavailable due to the actions of law enforcement... Certain jobs also have different payouts of course, so why do I keep hearing stories of people getting (seemingly) unfair punishments for the jobs on the lower ends of the payout/reward system when they don't have too many prior offenses and they are just trying to learn the ropes … vs the top end police vehicles as well that are stupidly outclassing the lower-end civilian vehicles in every way possible.

I don't have all the answers on this, but if anyone wants to discuss the economy of such and come up with better punishments or proposals rather than "this person robbed a (lower payout store) so we are seizing their vehicle and they cant fight it well in any real way possible." This city economy is very much grind based as well so its not easy to just say Make 100k back simple after failing that 20-40k payout starter job after what could be seen as initial offenses of the law... etc.

On a final note its also costly as shit to keep upgrading a random local car and use that vs easily souped up law enforcement vehicles... like ridiculously expensive,

[Beans]

All I'll say is that there is has recently been a system introduced to stop players vehicles getting seized so easily. I wont mention the system as I'm not sure I'm allowed (META) but as far as I'm aware from your explanation, unless you did some borderline NVL stunts while off-roading, I don't believe your car should have been taken.

I believe the thing that needs to be done here is some heavier reminders to cops on the situations in which they are allowed to seize a vehicle, I myself have had a car seized for a first time offence and once I opened up a court case, It didn't even make it to court, I got the vehicle back within a few days.

[Ren Yates]

I will say there is a system in place that does allow PD to seize a vehicle. There is also more to that as will but we cant go to further into it. However, the one thing I can recommend is that if you feel something was done that you dont think is right by all means fill out an IA about it and then it can get looked into as well. There is threasholds before a vehicle can be seized and documentation is provided when it is seized or at least should be. One thing I can say is that the seizure document must be given in order for the seizure to be legal.

Also the reason why seizing a vehicle is a thing is to prevent criminals using the same car over and over to get away from crimes.

Also, stop stealing cars lol. 

5 hours ago, Fletch_a_Sketch said:

 If anything as well there could be a system that is a temporary seizure... 
 

I believe this has been brought up before and might be looked into as well. Not sure if its gone anywhere but it has been discussed. 

[ZaxxYs]

You also have the option of not using your personal vehicles to do crime, I have never seen in movies or shows or anything people using their own vehicles to do robberies and such, there are ways in the game for you to use other people's cars or local cars and be able to escape without risking a warrant or a vehicle seizure. 

[ROTN]

8 hours ago, ZaxxYs said:

You also have the option of not using your personal vehicles to do crime, I have never seen in movies or shows or anything people using their own vehicles to do robberies and such, there are ways in the game for you to use other people's cars or local cars and be able to escape without risking a warrant or a vehicle seizure. 

Not Unless James Bond 

[Kota]

I am actually in favor of making harsher penalties on using personal vehicles for crime. You want to use your 1 million dollar car for a robbery then don't get caught. Or lose it. That is how it should be. So people start using stolen vehicles. 

[Razec]

It is your ultimately your choice to put your vehicle in the eyes of the law. As Kota said, there are smarter ways of going about it. I have seen it being done, it just takes a bit of planning and effort. 

[Kathryn Davies]

I think it's totally fair if you're using your own vehicle for a crime to pay the impound. Especially considering how crazy some cars are, trying to catch up to a supercar after a robbery or even something like a kuruma, it's not easy. I'll say the sherrif's vehicle is not great in those scenarios and if I'm primary they're probably getting away unless they really can't drive. And I would say I'm a pretty decent driver. While using local cars can make it harder to get away, it also leaves no trace of you and means you don't have to pay the impound.

[Samantha Hatfield]

Don't want the vehicle being seized? Think smarter.

Whilst people may complain and so forth about their vehicle being seized for being used in a crime, then don't use it. It's that simple. Local vehicles are a way to go about doing things, and keep in mind it's not the speed that wins; it's the knowledge and knowing your surroundings which you can use to your advantage.

Davies summed it up well.