Introduction of "Local EMS"

[Lydia Jax]

+1

I agree with Richie, if there is no EMS clocked in then this isn't affecting anyone's job or RP. It's to help EU players, a lot of things in the server can cause all types of issues in different situations. It could also help with people who like myself experience pot holes. I can't tell you how many times I have been downed due to them, it makes me scared to clock on during weird hours cause I know chances are 50/50 I'll get wrecked by the server. It would only be around when EMS isn't, could also charge a hefty price to make people value their lives more for those who are reckless. I feel like this will help the EU people feel more comfortable and want to keep coming back, if I was new and I kept getting downed to stuff I couldn't control it would possibly make me want to give up for a bit or all together. Plus not everyone's RP fits EMS, people want to main crim. Some people don't feel comfortable with EMS RP, same goes for PD/BCSO, not everyone can do it. 

[Randy Jones]

On 11/25/2021 at 6:01 AM, Richie Jax said:

+1 aslong as its when no EMS is clocked in and theres some sort of price behind it. If theres no EMS clocked in, i dont see how this affect EMS RP at all.

If it only works when no EMS are clocked in then it 100% would not affect EMS RP in any way 

[Yama]

I agree there needs to be something that can help the city when EMS is unavailable, and I think this idea is a good way to approach it. However, any change to the revive mechanic is going to change RP for EMS, whether EMS are on duty or not. That's basically our whole business, I think EMS staff can be a little concerned about it changing.

If the new mechanic is too punishing, we're going to get crapped on for "not doing the job we signed up for." (A sentiment that is already all too common) If it's too convenient, then we run into what MJ is worried about and people will be frustrated to wait on Live EMS just having to interact with us. Yeah, that's a sucky way for people to look at it, but it's guaranteed to happen. It already happens now, and people will just feel even more inconvenienced to "deal with EMS" if things are easier when we're not around.

That said, I'm still a +1 to trying this out, I feel like it's something beneficial to the overall city quality of life and will make more people feel better about flying in during the EU hours. A well populated city means more potential EMS to fill those coverage gaps. Just as long as it doesn't lead to making EMS unnecessary.

[MJ.]

It would affect EMS RP. You dont get any RP when you are gettting picked up by locals. So people will expect that from actual EMS. I've been doing this for some time now, I have seen how people treat EMS, it wont get better if this is implemented. Something different... yes. But this is still a HARD -1 from me. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by MJ High

[MJ.]

On 11/24/2021 at 1:10 AM, GK47_ said:

As for applying for EMS myself to help EU times, not really something that’s possible for me to personally to do, I have my main focus on two characters ones a crim who runs a gang and the other is a new cop character. I’m one who wants less automatic things in the server and more manual, but it’s impossible, in my opinion, to make everything manual.

Your cop character can be an EMT too. Requirement of only one shift a month. 

If people see more people clocking on during EU times, then more people will apply, meaning, more EMS during EU times. Its basic psychology.

At the end of the day, I am thinking about the EMTs that will clock on and how they will be treated, including myself. I'm not trying to completely hate on the idea, but EMS is FINALLY in a good spot, and I would personally like to keep it that way. So, I think your heart is in a good place, but I think something better can come along and not make it where EMS does lose RP. People who aren't EMS don't understand, and that's completely okay. 

[Lydia Jax]

I want to throw my opinion out there;

I am in no way disregarding EMS as a faction at all. They do great work. But unfortunately, like you said "EMS is finally in a good spot", part of the reason it has taken awhile is due to not much being around. People started getting the habit of having to take their downed friend to the hospital for treatment. So I can see how sometimes people walk past EMS clocked on. The other part is peoples lack of wanting to put in the effort of RP with EMS, which sucks for EMS. This all being said, it seems like the EU people are going to be punished and have to deal with losing all their stuff over and over again. Not always is it a chase of "not valuing their life". But there are also the cases that fall under "shit happens". NA hours are getting the benefits of EMS, but EU isn't. So I don't see how local EMS when NO EMS is clocked on is hurting anything. 

Edited November 27, 2021 by Lydia Jax

[Dorkyartist]

On 11/14/2021 at 9:10 AM, GK47_ said:

Before I get "-1"'s from people who think it'll ruin RP... hear me out because I agree.

For someone who's from the UK, and get's on the server quite early. It's frustrating if you happen to go down because you either have to wait the hour and hope an EMS happens to log on during that time or simply respawn; which you risk losing cash on your person, items, and the weight limit your person can hold. You could argue well that's the dangers of getting into situations or driving recklessly, but the point here is that there's hardly any EMS, if any, on during EU times, for hours.

Same way we use the M Menu when we're conscious to access wallet, vehicle etc, is the same way we can access the M Menu when we're downed, however, your two options are "Call for EMS" or "Use Local EMS" (similar to NoPixel). Someone might argue "No, because people will use local EMS all the time" but we can make "Use Local EMS" an option after 10 minutes of being downed, only when no EMS are on the server. I give 10 minutes as a rough number simply so no one uses it during an active scene to get out of a situation. Once used it would take you to the closest hospital, where you'll be on a bed getting healed by nurse nancy. 

Rules can also be applied to make sure everyone knows the right way to use it and any other way can lead to potential warnings/bans from mods and admins. 

By no means am I stating this as a final idea but I do think something needs to be implemented for us early EU people, feel free to add more ideas or counter ideas below, but IMO we do need a form of local EMS.

This is a version of it on NoPixel: link - however their one is different to how I've proposed it.

I agree with the idea, but I will also try getting on more for EU time zones as well, as I am EMS. I’ll do what I can to help, but sometimes I’m the only one on duty with multiple calls, so it can be difficult sometimes 

[GK47_]

4 minutes ago, Dorkyartist said:

I agree with the idea, but I will also try getting on more for EU time zones as well, as I am EMS. I’ll do what I can to help, but sometimes I’m the only one on duty with multiple calls, so it can be difficult sometimes 

I think I can say this on behalf of everyone that gets on the server during EU times, we thank you! We appreciate it a lot

[Declan]

1+ Gk47 has a great point.

I'm a early bird so I get to experience Eu frustration, I have yet to see the light because I limit my actions while no Ems is around, but I have seen what happens to others and it feels bad.

like 3 weeks back I was hanging around the Ace's compound when we heard gun fire coming from back of the compound and we noticed it was  Cops vs Crims, the 4 Crims got the best of the cops and No Ems was around. as the Ace's being criminals we could of just sat back watched them see the light but we chose to provide 6 cops with aid taking them to see Nancy so they could get back to their feet. Having a NPC Ems wouldn't hurt the situation, as long as it gave a 10 min effect that would allow them to move around but not fully functional  something along the hibiscus effect were you fall randomly and have limited vision till you recover also at a cost right. so it isn't a first option maybe around 8k.