lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 May I suggest that LS Tuners stick to tuning and stop encroaching on the cosmetic and mechanic business please? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnchris Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Agreed... They take all the business when there a tuner shop. They should only be doing upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dK_ Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Who would you want to do cosmetics? The dealerships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, Richie Jax said: Who would you want to do cosmetics? The dealerships? From my understanding tuning was taken away from dealerships and they kept cosmetics. I don't see a problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dK_ Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 You specifically mentioned the tuner shop taking cosmetic business so I’m confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhac Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I can see how they would need to repair cars in order to work on them sometimes, but I feel they should not be out advertising and offering just straight repairs. We sit at Hayes for hours on end and especially lately it has been slow, so when we see ads for $300-$500 repairs being offered there, its very frustrating. Would also like to add people have been turned down for ownership of other mechanic shops because there is so many shops already(this was even before LST was around). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Richie Jax said: You specifically mentioned the tuner shop taking cosmetic business so I’m confused. From my understanding, and I have been paying close attention as it concerns Phil and some close friends, the tuner shop was originally, and only, supposed to do upgrades (the one's that dealers would do for the additional 44k or whatever...engine, turbo, etc...). But now they are advertising for, and doing, cosmetics (spoilers, exhaust, bumpers, etc...) and mechanics work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Well perhaps limit cosmetic upgrades to tuner vehicles. So not regular cars, muscle cars, bikes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lion_Luke said: Well perhaps limit cosmetic upgrades to tuner vehicles. So not regular cars, muscle cars, bikes, etc. Honestly, as Mike has touched on, my concern is mainly with advertised business level mechanic work being done through the tuner shop. I mentioned cosmetics as well because it seems that it's not what the original arrangement was when the tuner shop first arrived. In fact, from day one the tuner shop did not do cosmetics or repairs, but seemed to always have the ability, and has slowly began to adopt those features into their business model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tay Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, lords8n said: From my understanding, and I have been paying close attention as it concerns Phil and some close friends, the tuner shop was originally, and only, supposed to do upgrades (the one's that dealers would do for the additional 44k or whatever...engine, turbo, etc...). But now they are advertising for, and doing, cosmetics (spoilers, exhaust, bumpers, etc...) and mechanics work. Tuner shop since opening has had cosmetic upgrades as well as the ability to repair, both of which were decided originally. This was discussed prior to release with owners of dealerships at one point or another. Edited June 2, 2022 by tay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhac Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, tay said: Tuner shop since opening has had cosmetic upgrades as well as the ability to repair, both of which were decided originally. This was discussed prior to release with owners of dealerships at one point or another. So it was always planned to offer repair services? By that I mean JUST repairing a vehicle, not repairing a vehicle so you can do cosmetics/upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tay Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, mjhac said: So it was always planned to offer repair services? By that I mean JUST repairing a vehicle, not repairing a vehicle so you can do cosmetics/upgrades. Offering repair services? Not exactly. Ability to repair? Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, tay said: Tuner shop since opening has had cosmetic upgrades as well as the ability to repair, both of which were decided originally. This was discussed prior to release with owners of dealerships at one point or another. I don't understand, in a market that has already denied people owning other mechanic shops because the market is saturated, do you choose to add another mechanic shop? Hayes is independent. It's not gang owned with a team (gang) of people that engage in other various activities, but are commonly bound to the mechanic shop by their affiliation alone. I can't maintain an employee base if the employees aren't making money. And i've done enough of sitting in that mechanic shop alone for hours on end to attempt to keep it open and relevant in the community. You're an admin...you've had to have noticed the crazy Chinese dude sitting at Hayes day after day, hour after hour over the last nine months? I need active employees so I can do other things. I think i've paid my dues and did my time in that place. Isn't it enough I have to complete with Elgin's $500 repair because they were instructed to do so by someone that "didn't care about money and just wants interactions?" Now I have to deal with LST advertising $300-$500 repairs and operating as an active mechanic shop for what...the interactions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tay Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, lords8n said: I don't understand, in a market that has already denied people owning other mechanic shops because the market is saturated, do you choose to add another mechanic shop? Hayes is independent. It's not gang owned with a team (gang) of people that engage in other various activities, but are commonly bound to the mechanic shop by their affiliation alone. I can't maintain an employee base if the employees aren't making money. And i've done enough of sitting in that mechanic shop alone for hours on end to attempt to keep it open and relevant in the community. You're an admin...you've had to have noticed the crazy Chinese dude sitting at Hayes day after day, hour after hour over the last nine months? I need active employees so I can do other things. I think i've paid my dues and did my time in that place. Isn't it enough I have to complete with Elgin's $500 repair because they were instructed to do so by someone that "didn't care about money and just wants interactions?" Now I have to deal with LST advertising $300-$500 repairs and operating as an active mechanic shop for what...the interactions? The Tuner advertising repairs will seize but repair ability will remain. Never the intention to promote as a 'mechanic shop' other than the tuning aspects of mechanical work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords8n Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, tay said: The Tuner advertising repairs will seize but repair ability will remain. Never the intention to promote as a 'mechanic shop' other than the tuning aspects of mechanical work. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhac Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 And that’s totally understandable, thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoforevertv Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I appreciate your willingness to address the concerns regarding the advertising. I can now only hope that like how most things are supposed to function in the city in regards to word of mouth/interactions that even though the advertising might stop the word is already out they have the ability to do it, and do it at a cheaper price because they are generating revenue from other more profitable services they have access too. I suppose it would only effect the long term members of the community vs those that are coming into the city for their first time now the promotion has been stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpca Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 I always thought LS customs did cosmetics? i mean ill get work done at tuners if im already there getting a wide body kit and upgrades, it is what it is, but most times ill get tuner upgrades at tuners, and then cosmetics at LS customs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergei Kushnov Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 I no i am a nobody here but i did notice a huge decline in buisness over the past few days/week been trying to work with all the other shops not but heads and have realationships with the owners as i am a self contrator basiclally in mirror park life has been really good honnestly the locals treat me good and have built good amazing realationships with them! I wasnt aware that elgin had dropped there prices again sounds like a gang is trying to run it lol and maybe the tuner shop is affecting my buisness as well not sure but im still steady enough but here is serg's thoughts im newer here so honestly this migt make no sence! Here We go! The dealerships should have access too basic paint jobs and some some cosmetics. Tuners get upgrades and widebodies no repairs . Hayes gets cosmetics, aftermarket lights and wax and repairs. 305 maybe custom tires shop and repair shop and maybe paint shop Biker shops for bike work upgrades and cosmetics bike shops can repair anything might need more Serg's auto pressure washer car wash and repairs with faster tools something else maybe would really.like to beable to clock in at work lol I feel that there are some things missing in the city that would be amazing for everyone!! i no it sounds like there are too many shops but if each buisness offered something unique then everyone will win! We are all in this together we need to work together to grow! It seems like badlands is on the rise becoming more and more populated with the top notch goverment there can only be success! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorettiOG Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 hours ago, dmpca said: I always thought LS customs did cosmetics? i mean ill get work done at tuners if im already there getting a wide body kit and upgrades, it is what it is, but most times ill get tuner upgrades at tuners, and then cosmetics at LS customs. We do indeed do cosmetics, only thing we don’t do is colored under glow and head lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Frost Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 Oh, I thought The tuners could only do the engine stuff, and the car dealerships dealt with cosmetics. Cosmetic adjustments happen a lot, but you only go to tune up a few times, then you're done, so it makes sense for Tuners to expand staff to maintain better coverage, as well as possibly get a small raise to encourage people to spend the extra time waiting between visits from prospective customers? Also, exclusives wins customers faster than anything else ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpca Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Austin Moretti said: We do indeed do cosmetics, only thing we don’t do is colored under glow and head lights. yeah thats what i thought, only time i ever got tuners to do anything is when i get say a wide body done and upgrades, but i mean its cheaper to do cosmetics at LSC anyway bcuz 20% off plus i look at it in my head as same as IC Dealership = get car Tuners = Performance Customs = Body work Mechanics = Fix and then you have hayes for lights, and thats how i been doing it, doesnt make sense to get all one spot if there is multiple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackyMcDoogal Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, dmpca said: yeah thats what i thought, only time i ever got tuners to do anything is when i get say a wide body done and upgrades, but i mean its cheaper to do cosmetics at LSC anyway bcuz 20% off plus i look at it in my head as same as IC Dealership = get car Tuners = Performance Customs = Body work Mechanics = Fix and then you have hayes for lights, and thats how i been doing it, doesnt make sense to get all one spot if there is multiple +1 for sure 100 percent agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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