Certified First Responders - Medic LSPD Members

[Dashfere]

I have an idea for the Police department to be able to assist with civilians who are in need of medical care (when EMS are unavailable) and it goes a little something like this:

Many police officers and firefighters are required to receive training as 'certified first responders'. Advanced medical care is typically provided by EMS, although some police officers and firefighters also train to become emergency medical technicians or paramedics. A certified first responder (Also called an Emergency Medical Responder, Emergency First Responder, Medical First Responder, or First Responder) is a person who has completed a course and received certification in providing pre-hospital care for medical emergencies. Certified individuals should have received much more instruction than someone who is trained in basic first aid but they are not necessarily a substitute for more advanced emergency medical care rendered by emergency medical technicians (EMTs) and paramedics. First responders typically provide advanced first aid level care, CPR, and automated external defibrillator (AED) usage.

My thoughts regarding this involve interested Police Officers training through the LSFD to become medically trained
So Police officers who have trained through LSFD to become an EMS would be able to provide on scene medical care in the following ways when no EMS are available:
- Field Treatment
- CPR 
- Moving the patients on scene. (Hostile or not)
- Transport to the nearest medical facility

When EMS are available the medically trained Officers would refer medical cases to the appropriate faction but would be available to assist if the need arose.
LSFD 911 calls would still not come through to LSPD on duty (something to be adjusted accordingly, not sure if there is a way to split them IF a CFR was on duty or not *shrug!*)

I believe this would help alleviate the lack of medical roleplay options when EMS personnel are not around and would allow Officers to have an option to not walk away from injured civilians who were victims of circumstance or crime, as personally I find it breaks my immersion as a PO. Dash would not leave someone dying on the floor if she had the capabilities to help. It would also let the few officers who are in LSFD and LSPD represent BOTH factions.

Please keep replies and thoughts as close to this topic as possible regarding the idea of this CFR (Certified First Responder) position

(Also Jordan had some input)
 

Edited May 22, 2019 by Dashfere
Jordan Salsberg being a crybaby

[Bella Chase]

100% agree with this whole thing.  When there are not EMS on duty, Police should have someone trained to be a first responder.  That is what police do in addition to law enforcement, they back up EMS calls.  This seems like a fair way to handle it.  

[Porkinator]

I couldn't agree more. The lack of medical roleplay and general scene roleplay involving injured persons, is 100% lacking when EMS aren't available. I do believe that having this implemented will still keep it "balanced". Understandably you could argue, well all officers will just join ems. Personally I don't think that would happen. You could also if needed, limit the amount of medical trained officers. I would even  love to see (if possible in dev) a uniform showing who is a medical trained officer. There could even be a hierarchy as such, for higher ranked EMS that are also PD. A lead medical officer for example. 

I agree that we still shouldn't receive medical life alert calls, and let the scene's naturally occur as and when we come across them on patrols. The overall benefit of RP gained across the board is a win win I believe. As for the statement previously talked about in other topics. Keeping the "risk" of losing your possessions, keep some sort of penalty if you "go to the light". I believe letting this be implemented to benefit RP greatly, and look at other avenues, of mechanic's and such to give other "risks" to players lives and possessions. But that's for another topic.

Overall, I 100% agree with this and would love to see it implemented. Look forward to seeing everyone else's input.  

[Serena]

As mentioned elsewhere, really good idea! Cpl+ and paramedic+ both being eligible for this. 

[Chan]

11 hours ago, Jordan.S said:

I agree that we still shouldn't receive medical life alert calls, and let the scene's naturally occur as and when we come across them on patrols. 

This is what I agree with the most. I like the concept of trained police officers being able to revive others, but if they get same calls as EMS, it kinda defeats the purpose to ever play EMS if you are whitelisted as both.

I am 100% sure that people will abuse this mechanic, as civs will just call the police if no EMS is online, but there could always be SOPs or rules against that.

I would love to see something that @Dashfere suggested actually get implemented. Great idea.

10/10

[Gasman]

 

 

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21 hours ago, Chan Wong said:

This is what I agree with the most. I like the concept of trained police officers being able to revive others, but if they get same calls as EMS, it kinda defeats the purpose to ever play EMS if you are whitelisted as both.

@Dashfere thought of that:

 

 

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On 5/22/2019 at 4:47 PM, Dashfere said:

When EMS are available the medically trained Officers would refer medical cases to the appropriate faction but would be available to assist if the need arose.

Basically, SOP remains the same. PD does not respond to medical calls and does not transport/treat patients unless they are one of three exceptions. However, I'm not even sure these CFR cops should be able to use medical kits -- maybe just grant them more leeway for transporting. I think this might be a good middle ground, and if it's limited to certain ranks within each faction as @Serena suggested, I think that might be a decent balance.

[Dashfere]

Let me reiterate as I don't think I mentioned it in the original post, but I do not want the CFR rank to be able to resuscitate/reanimate on scene. Purely providing medical treatment /field treatment. Transport to the nearest medical facility etc.