CCRS-ID (Concealed Carry Restricted Side-arm)

[D E M 0 N XIII]

It'd be great if there was a way for legal citizens, without felony charges, to be able to carry a bigger side-arm;
something to contend with the big toys that many of the criminals have.
As Security there can be incidents where a Mk II pistol only goes so far.

There would have to be a criminal record check, and a new CCRS-ID card for Concealed Carry & Restricted Side-arm, similar to Hunting License and Citizen's ID cards. 
For use in self defense situations, only.
Upon having the record check and ID card the police station would issue a paymet method for a registered Desert Eagle and/or Heavy Pistol as well as ammunition;
Citizens can only obtain from MRPD and would need an officer escort to obtain the firearms and ammunition from the armory vendor.
That way there's a bit of RP for legal citizens looking for purchase and PD officers just to get through the doors, and back outside.
Money from this would go to MRPD's funding as it's not going to be cheap. 
(The price should make them consider buying from the streets for an un-registered side-arm due to cost.)
 

Edited August 1, 2021 by D E M 0 N XIII
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[Matthew King]

+1 Love the idea - however, there can be some concerns in regards to potential abuse of handing out the Deagles, rather than people trying to find the location. 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Matthew King

[Gavil Rindrin]

I like this idea alot as well, and I think there should just be heavy penalties to those that distribute after obtaining from PD. Even potentially a permanent loss of that license. If it is stolen, it has to be reported to PD, and a failure to do so results in it being viewed as the same as distribution. 

[D E M 0 N XIII]

5 hours ago, Matthew King said:

+1 Love the idea - however, there can be some concerns in regards to potential abuse of handing out the Deagles, rather than people trying to find the location. 

True - I'm sure if this is implemented that the devs and admins can find a way for RP interaction without abusing it.

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Even if it's just part of 'stuff' and only LEO's are informed of the change - that way it would need to spread word of mouth from officers to public. 
Or.. Something, I bet someone has the perfect idea for how this could work out without abuse.

Edited August 1, 2021 by D E M 0 N XIII

[D E M 0 N XIII]

31 minutes ago, GodlessRebel said:

I like this idea alot as well, and I think there should just be heavy penalties to those that distribute after obtaining from PD. Even potentially a permanent loss of that license. If it is stolen, it has to be reported to PD, and a failure to do so results in it being viewed as the same as distribution. 

Yes, heavy fines. Still would be more practical for criminals to get their desert eagle from the shady locations.
That heavy pistol & red dot sight though would be exclusive to officers and legal CCRS-ID permitted citizens.
If sold or stolen the firearms demand reporting and the license holder fined. Give them a few days penalty before buying another gun, or even the license entirely.
Obviously abuse of obtaining these weapons/ammo will result in loss of licensing and potential permament loss of services.
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For use in self-defense only - If anyone with the license is found to be using it as a force of assault - the weapon and licence are legally revoked, fines and charges.
Potential for permanant loss of service.

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[Belle Barnes]

-1, I don't think it makes sense to have MRPD hand out guns that require training and then certifications for officers to even use. These are rank and cert-locked guns for PD that you're asking for. 

 

However, I don't think it would be bad to get citizens in the security field (with a clean record requirement) security training and possibly help to outfit them. This could be almost like a mini-faction or a paid certification, which would be pretty cool and would probably satisfy both sides of this argument if set up correctly.

 

Edit: This could even be like something you have to clock in for, as security, with SOP's and things like that to further structure it and provide legal means to actually be security personnel. +1 for security license/job. 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Hylia

[MJ.]

-1 

If you know how to shoot, you can def use a Mk2 to handle the situation. I don't think PD should be handing out Heavy Pistols as they are ranked locked, and deagles should remain illegal due to the fact that they are basically a one shot. If PD can't use deagles against criminals legally, then neither should LEGAL civilians. IMO

[Samantha Hatfield]

-1

[Yama]

I'd say this could already exist with enough RP backing. If you can convince the DOJ and LSPD of a reason you would need a restricted weapon, then more power to you! Even if you end up getting denied, the RP that would come from that might be pretty entertaining.

[D E M 0 N XIII]

On 8/1/2021 at 11:25 AM, Hylia said:

-1, I don't think it makes sense to have MRPD hand out guns that require training and then certifications for officers to even use. These are rank and cert-locked guns for PD that you're asking for. 

 

However, I don't think it would be bad to get citizens in the security field (with a clean record requirement) security training and possibly help to outfit them. This could be almost like a mini-faction or a paid certification, which would be pretty cool and would probably satisfy both sides of this argument if set up correctly.

 

Edit: This could even be like something you have to clock in for, as security, with SOP's and things like that to further structure it and provide legal means to actually be security personnel. +1 for security license/job. 

Ahh; didn't know they were rank locked. Thought they were just avalable cause of PD job. That clears it up a bit.

[UnknownRNGS]

This is a nice suggestion, but i don't believe it should be heavy pistols that are being handed out. I would love to see better weapons for security personnel that are restricted through legal means.

Possibly the implementation of a legal route to obtain heavy weapons such as the Combat PDW in online or maybe even Mark 2 versions of more weapons (SNS pistol, etc). 

As it stands there is no legal route to obtain anything better than a MK2 handgun and i feel like that should change. It would add lots of RP scenarios for many (getting the weapon, all that).

[D E M 0 N XIII]

On 8/1/2021 at 11:31 AM, MJ High said:

-1 

If you know how to shoot, you can def use a Mk2 to handle the situation. I don't think PD should be handing out Heavy Pistols as they are ranked locked, and deagles should remain illegal due to the fact that they are basically a one shot. If PD can't use deagles against criminals legally, then neither should LEGAL civilians. IMO

PD has legal class 3's and a .44 magnum.
PD could easily have a legal deagle if this was implemented.
& deagles aren't 1 shot unless it's a headshot, it takes about 3-4 to the chest to down someone without body armor; 5-6 with armor.
MkII's take about 5-6 without armor, 8-9 with armor. 2-3 to the head.
I've had a Danny RDM beat me down as I put 3 shots in his chest with a deagle trying to get away from him.
I've also had a Danny RDM stab 2 of my friends; then as he rushed me as I got out of my vehicle I was able to shoot 5 times with a MkII and I got stabbed too.
I'm a decent shot and I go first person ADS when I need to use my guns, for the most part.
As for heavy pistols, I can see the issue as they are rank locked, which I didn't know before.
Also, for CCRS-ID carriers, the price for the weapons would be high enough to push them to consider illegal firearms and the penalty for misuse would be a big risk factor,
as you could be charged and lose the license for an extended period, if not indefinitely. 
CCRS-ID could even have different tiers for different weapon types like Shotguns and SMG's
Like here CCRS1 would be strictly sidearm and CCRS2 would be shotgun, CCRS3 would be full auto's.
Something like legal deagle, shotgun, SMG's would be expensive and require CCRS#-ID and criminal record checks to be able to purchase and ammunition;
Or what ever weapons admin/devs would approve for use, if this were to become a thing.

All around, good discussion.