Legal jobs.

[Igor_Vasiljev]

So as a newbie on the server who has literally no cash or anything, i tried doing some legal jobs and illegal jobs, currently, the illegal jobs are the way to go for anyone who joins the server, simply because

1st, you get good money and you mostly dont need alot of cash to start doing a job.

2nd, easy, doesnt require any other players interaction or anything related to other players.

3rd, You can start it straight away.

So the problems with the legal jobs currently are that they require A SHIT TON of cash to start doing them.

For starters, every legal job vehicle costs holy shit how much money.

A taxi cab, requires no license except the drivers license that every person has anyways, but requires you to buy a taxi cab for 10k which is ALOT for a person trying to start in the town where he is new, simply because you get (I think 15k) a small sum of cash when you come into the town.

A tow truck job, requires you to have a drivers license obviously and a tow truck license which costs 5k, and then, a whopping 40k for a fucking tow truck just to do your job.

So the problems that need to be fixed are,

FIx the legal vehicle prices, taxi cab to 1k, a tow truck to atleast 5k.

Remove any free vehicles that are there, bicycles for example or increase the bicycle prices to atleast 10-15k.

Reasons why to do so and why to fix those things, Tow trucks are always needed simply because people always park illegally and get a fair time notice to fix the problem or get the vehicle towed, im not sure if the tow truck drivers can do that or not, but they should be able to repair, refuel, tune etc etc vehicles, so there would be always a job for them.

Removing any free vehicles or atleast increasing the price for bicycles to atleast 10-15k would be reasonable, because they dont run out of fuel and as far as i know you cant destroy them, they are the cleaned and cheapest transport there is, so they should be the most expensive one too, removing them from being free would encourage people to use taxi more frequently especially newbies like me.

Also it would be nice to reduce the amount of garages that there are, everyone has a vehicle, and when left stranded or anything like that, a garage is close by, so people tend to not call a taxi to not waste any money.

Writing this cause ive been sitting in a taxi cab with 0 cash for 2 hours now, cause i bought the cab for 10k with my last money, hoping to get calls and atleast earn some money back, but not a single fucking soul called a cab, so whats the point of the job anyways if everyone has a vehicle or a bicycle lmao?

When a player joins, his first thoughts about the money making shouldnt be a straight go to drugs or anything related to illegal activity, but sadly, at the current situation, its like that.

Dont know if i used the correct form or anything, dont really care if these changes happen so yeah, thx for reading ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ kek

[Igor_Vasiljev]

Oh and saying something like "Oh do a different job" or anything related to that is just plain stupid, obviously if theres a job available, you should be able to do it, as intended, but currently for example as stated above, the taxi job is just simply useless, cause theres no work for the taxi drivers, ive tried the engineer job, you get a vehicle, fix 5 turbines, for 5 turbines to fix, you gotta buy 5 engineering kits, which will cost you 200, so now you get 300 instead of 500 bucks from those 5 turbines, and im not even gonna count in the cost of vehicle repairs and fuel usage, but you make around 200-250 bucks per engine turbine if youre lucky i guess, maybe my math is off cause i just suck at it :D, but i hope yall see the point.

there are many things that need to be fixed, so i was told to get on the suggestion board and start suggesting lol, dont know why the person/people who told me that dont want to do that themselve but alright, i can make a smol post kek

Oh and no, i havent tried all the legal jobs that are available.

Another edit: A MIRACLE JUST HAPPENED, as a taxi driver, i just got my second customer! The first customer ofcourse was me myself lol, but the second customer, was a local lmao, so i guess with the taxi driver job you should stay in a populated area so you get customers, hence why the job tells you to "Driver around look for customers"

But still no interaction with players lol.

Edited May 7, 2020 by Igor_Vasiljev

[dK_]

A couple of things here. You can sign into a be taxi driver with any vehicle, you only need the taxi to do the local pickups. The price of the tow truck, im assuming is so new players dont just buy it to abuse what it can do. As far as drugs, there is high risk involved, the higher end drugs require large monetary investments and you can loose alot by getting caught. With that being said, the economy is closed watched and adjusted if its felt necessary. A players first thought when joining the city should be what type of RP they want to engage in, and money should come 2nd. If you were sitting for 2hrs even doing absolutely nothing you would've gained 2400 dollars. But this post will be read, and if the admin team feels adjustments need to be made then they will over time, i suggest trying to find some enjoyable RP over trying to get money in the meantime.  

[Igor_Vasiljev]

4 minutes ago, Richie said:

A couple of things here. You can sign into a be taxi driver with any vehicle, you only need the taxi to do the local pickups. The price of the tow truck, im assuming is so new players dont just buy it to abuse what it can do. As far as drugs, there is high risk involved, the higher end drugs require large monetary investments and you can loose alot by getting caught. With that being said, the economy is closed watched and adjusted if its felt necessary. A players first thought when joining the city should be what type of RP they want to engage in, and money should come 2nd. If you were sitting for 2hrs even doing absolutely nothing you would've gained 2400 dollars. But this post will be read, and if the admin team feels adjustments need to be made then they will over time, i suggest trying to find some enjoyable RP over trying to get money in the meantime.  

Lets not talk about what you can abuse or cant lmao there are alot of things a newbie can abuse on here, especially considering you can straight up get a weapon and go on a RDM spree, so whats the difference? Getting caught rdming or getting caught abusing the tow truck once, the punishment will be the same and as fast lol

If the case about the taxi cab is about the locals then thats just plain stupid, why not add uber then and get rid of the taxi cab overall cause you just make miserable money, considering you pay 10k for the vehicle lol

Obviously the drugs or any illegal activity is high risk high pay, but id like to do low risk medium pay jobs, but they ask almost the same amount or even more than the illegal jobs.

We all have different opinions about who thinks about what first, my first priority is money, and always money whenever i join a server or a game.

The taxi job could even profit the LSPD as in being undercover, simply said, the more taxi drivers there are, the less the chance of a undercover cop to be caught, since taxi cab's are the best vehicles to go undercover, but if theres like no taxi cabs around, and just 1 taxi cab thats not even doing the job, then thats suspicious af ye know kek.

[Sherlock Holmes]

I understand that for a extremely new player in the city its kinda confusing to find out what the best paying job is .... and you haven't even mentioned it here ,I assume you have not interacted enough with others to know what it is  The current jobs imho are kinda ok where I can single handedly grind and make good payment with very few interaction.

[paska]

8 hours ago, Igor_Vasiljev said:

If the case about the taxi cab is about the locals then thats just plain stupid, why not add uber then and get rid of the taxi cab overall cause you just make miserable money, considering you pay 10k for the vehicle lol

There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that and calling it uber. This is an RP server. RP and make money. I've made money in some ridiculous was because of RP. Reading through it all makes it seem like you're just saying "I don't want to RP but I want money to buy nice things"

Edited May 8, 2020 by paska

[Igor_Vasiljev]

2 hours ago, paska said:

There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that and calling it uber. This is an RP server. RP and make money. I've made money in some ridiculous was because of RP. Reading through it all makes it seem like you're just saying "I don't want to RP but I want money to buy nice things"

What lmao? The problem is not how much you make, the problem is how much you waste and how much you get in return, in return you get 0 RP and miserable cash in return, the problems stated above are as they are, and thats a fact.

You have literally nobody calling the taxi cause everybody either has a vehicle or they have a free bicycle that they can use at anytime cause there are so many garages around, hence why the taxi is never being called. The money problem and grinding is another story and topic lmao what are you talking about xD?

Yes its an RP server, and you RP to make money, but lets be real here, as a taxi driver, you cant be RPing with locals, i mean you can, but RPing with an mindless AI local is just stupid amr?

You cant RP or do your call if you dont get called as a taxi driver or a tow trucker am i right or not?

The only times when a taxi driver is being called is literally to get him as a hostage or to rob or something other illegally related towards the cab driver.

 

4 hours ago, Bames Jond- said:

I understand that for a extremely new player in the city its kinda confusing to find out what the best paying job is .... and you haven't even mentioned it here ,I assume you have not interacted enough with others to know what it is  The current jobs imho are kinda ok where I can single handedly grind and make good payment with very few interaction.

As i responded to paska above, the problem is not about money income, i already know what the best paying jobs are so ye.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Igor_Vasiljev

[Sherlock Holmes]

If you are talking about the amount of interaction then prolly apart from Mechanic everything else includes almost very less or no interaction at all. Tow truckers only interact very little with cops when they tag something for tow and the other jobs dont even have that interaction lol 

[Spartan]

On 5/7/2020 at 10:41 PM, Igor_Vasiljev said:

2nd, easy, doesnt require any other players interaction or anything related to other players.

is this supposed to be a good thing? if so I dont think thats the best mindset for an RP server

Interactions should always come first, I spend most my time as a crim getting caught because its so much more enjoyable than getting away

Edited May 11, 2020 by Andreas Spartan
typed wrong thing

[Igor_Vasiljev]

9 hours ago, Andreas Spartan said:

is this supposed to be a good thing? if so I dont think thats the best mindset for an RP server

Interactions should always come second, I spend most my time as a crim getting caught because its so much more enjoyable than getting away

Well again, its your opinion, you just answered your question about what you like or dont lol.

So basically drugs are the best way to make solo cash, if you want to solo it ofcourse, nobody is stopping you from doing it with like 5 other dudes, its just the profits will be miserable.

As a crim if you like being caught by the cops or being fucked in the ass by them is your thing, its what you enjoy, and people enjoy different things.

[luna]

i didn't read this whole thread as it seems to have spiralled from its original message.. but i agree that jobs like the taxi job can have minimal player interaction involved which isn't what anyone wants (or should want from an RP server)

there are a lot of ways to make money without having to do illegal jobs, and yes these are prior to buying your first vehicle

but i'm pretty sure those "solo" jobs are gonna change in the future to make things more interactive with other jobs/players, as this same topic has been brought up many times and not to speak for admins but i'm positive that is the direction they also want to go in

 

my thoughts to help fix this would be to have way fewer garages available for people to pull out vehicles from (as it never really made sense to me getting your vehicle out from almost anywhere) and a way to buy/hire private garages alongside housing/apartments (and in turn removing or reducing the cost of pulling out your vehicle)

i think this ^^ was what you intended with your message (and correct me if i'm wrong) and not that you don't want RP or interactions

also just saw now that you had also suggested fewer garages which i'd love to see also, i can't think of much else that would help it, if anyone else has any suggestions?

[Igor_Vasiljev]

2 hours ago, luna said:

i didn't read this whole thread as it seems to have spiralled from its original message.. but i agree that jobs like the taxi job can have minimal player interaction involved which isn't what anyone wants (or should want from an RP server)

there are a lot of ways to make money without having to do illegal jobs, and yes these are prior to buying your first vehicle

but i'm pretty sure those "solo" jobs are gonna change in the future to make things more interactive with other jobs/players, as this same topic has been brought up many times and not to speak for admins but i'm positive that is the direction they also want to go in

 

my thoughts to help fix this would be to have way fewer garages available for people to pull out vehicles from (as it never really made sense to me getting your vehicle out from almost anywhere) and a way to buy/hire private garages alongside housing/apartments (and in turn removing or reducing the cost of pulling out your vehicle)

i think this ^^ was what you intended with your message (and correct me if i'm wrong) and not that you don't want RP or interactions

also just saw now that you had also suggested fewer garages which i'd love to see also, i can't think of much else that would help it, if anyone else has any suggestions?

So the point of this post was to suggest a few changes, to lower the amount of garages to atleast 5(Yes i understand that you will have the problem of not being able to store your vehicle if another vehicle is near, but that also creates work for tow truckers) like 2 in the town and the rest outside of the town, because lets say youre doing something illegal like drugs, you can just store the drugs into the trunk and despawn the vehicle into the garage and you wont get busted(At the current moment you can do this very easily as there are so many garages across the map). Lowering the amount of garages will increase the amount of jobs for taxi drivers, i got jailed today for the first time, and i opened the map to see where the closes garage is, and boom, its pretty much like a 2 minute run to the garage, it would be nice if people who get out of the prison get like 100 bucks when they leave the prison so they could get a taxi(Doesnt matter even if they call a friend or not, the point is that not everybody has a friend kek).

Currently as a taxi driver you can get like 5 calls a day from other players, and mostly those calls come from big hawk lmao.

Lower the amount of job vehicles to make sure newbies on the server start doing them and start getting used to the server and stuff, paying 40k for a tow truck is stupid + you pay for the license, if they abuse the job, it clearly states that it can be revoked and never returned, simple as that.

the taxi cab costs 10k, should be reduced to like 1k-5k so newbies can get a job vehicle and start doing the taxi job.

The point is to make those jobs get more interactions with other people, which may lead to RP scenarios or friendship or love kek.

Yes there are a ton of ways to make money without going the illegal path, but the illegal path is the easiest path, simply cause it requires almost to no effort, and thats exactly why you need to create more work for the legal jobs.

Having a garage/private garage in your house would be an awesome idea, but only if the house allows/has a garage.

People above think that im trying to suggest something to make easier or more money or to waste less money, what im trying to say that an experienced player will not do these jobs obviously simply because they already have the resources or anything else that they require to make enough money not to do these jobs, yes there are a few who like doing the jobs, but thats a few, so when a newbie comes into the server, his first spot to find a job is the job center, but when he takes the taxi job and gets no work, he pretty much wasted 10k on a vehicle he has nothing else to do but use for transport, instead he could of gotten a cheaper vehicle.

Try to look this from my perspective, the newbie perspective, not like an experienced player who has a 100k car and knows everything about the server, think like a newbie who is just trying to make some starting cash on the server, to meet people/have a chat in a taxi while taking someone from prison or w/e.

edit: Also remove those free bicycles so the taxi drivers get more jobs, or increase their price to 10k, as i said above, they are currently a free transport that requires to refill or anything + you can buy like few of them from the garage for free as far as i remember.

Edited May 9, 2020 by Igor_Vasiljev

[vDrop]

Read everything....

+1 on removing Free Bikes

Edited May 9, 2020 by vDrop

[Chan]

On 5/7/2020 at 11:41 PM, Igor_Vasiljev said:

increase the bicycle prices to atleast 10-15k.

The thread title gave me hope until I read this...