������� Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I havent ever noticed it until it was brought up By Daniel Bos himself ("but since then its like something that just bugs a person") when we were discussing things that could improve RP. Calling out in twitter that your running a mechanic shop with stated name you are going under then throwing 2/6 or 3/6 behind it. Its complete meta in a sense. and it looks terrible i understand its a trend that was started and it just continues because this is the norm, but why not change this. because its no different then renting a store location NO ONE SAYS such and such store is open with the name of your store at a said location like 4/8 its literally known by the street ,establishment neighborhood its in. for example strawberry store lost mc store or mirror park store not store 4/9. Its tacky 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amybos Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Totally agree. To be able to give a description on where the repair shop is, say what road is on or what suburb it is. EG: Elgin Mechanic, or Mirror Park or Strawberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 As much as shops are recognized by their numbers - I'd love to see people start doing this! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Its a way of address like a postal code in some way. This also in no way is meta gaming.. Some people just don't know street names etc. So instead of each time having to explain where something is... I like the way how it is right now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storrent Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) You can see it as metagaming, but there are always different perspectives you can take on it. I see it as one GPS company holding a monopoly on San Andreas-imported cars, and since everybody's systems align in terms of noted/marked locations, people refer to them as such due to ease of accessibility. When roleplaying in a public server, one must consider all sides--specifically, the less experienced people who don't know that 2/6 is called Auto Exotic on Elgin Ave. Even though it may look stupid, it's a recognizable slang term for a landmark location. Edited March 20, 2019 by Storrent 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r3v0Lt55 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 In the grand scheme of things is this really that important? I could name you guys a dozen more important issues to post about other than advertisements using the in-game legend number of a garage. Quote when we were discussing things that could improve RP If you want to discuss improving RP then you need to discuss people ability to step outside of their comfort zones. Right now people are comfortable chilling with their same group of friends at the garage, or jamestown, or where ever. Cops and EMS are still comfortable dealing with situations the same as they always have dealt with situations. The only thing that can improve RP is each and every one of us stepping outside of our comfort zone and pushing ourselves. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
������� Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, r3v0Lt55 said: If you want to discuss improving RP then you need to discuss people ability to step outside of their comfort zones. Right now people are comfortable chilling with their same group of friends at the garage, or jamestown, or where ever. Cops and EMS are still comfortable dealing with situations the same as they always have dealt with situations. The only thing that can improve RP is each and every one of us stepping outside of our comfort zone and pushing ourselves. i completely agree with you on this and back to the "is this really that important" Yes because its terrible the immersion is completely lost with so and so garage is running out of 2/6 like i said when someone rents out a shop its not referred to as shop 4/8 its referred by the street its on and people dont have issues finding it then. This would be a step in leaving a comfort zone for the mechanics that continue to run shops day in and day out by getting away from what is now considered the norm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mia Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I agree it breaks immersion a bit but not nearly as much as standing on bushes or saying 'I'm going into my head for 5 minutes', at least for me. Immersion breaking just comes with playing in a public server. I'm gonna try never to refer to the shops by number if I can tho, good suggestion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Beau Yates said: when someone rents out a shop its not referred to as shop 4/8 its referred by the street its on and people dont have issues finding it then No... The Hospitals, Police stations and Shops are marked on the "Gps" with their Street names. the Mechanic shops are not. That why people dont have issues finding it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielBos Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Just because something is being done by a lot of people doesnt make it right. calling something by its map reference is META. on an IRL map you woulnt say your address is page 284 G6.3? Just because some people have a hard time doesnt mean things should just be overlooked. As said people dont call it shop 5/8 or anything like that, so why have it for mechanics or anything else? this is failRP and meta. also one of the reasons I have stepped back from BLRP. Edited March 20, 2019 by DanielBos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000010101010101010000000 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 hours ago, r3v0Lt55 said: In the grand scheme of things is this really that important? I could name you guys a dozen more important issues to post about other than advertisements using the in-game legend number of a garage. If you want to discuss improving RP then you need to discuss people ability to step outside of their comfort zones. Right now people are comfortable chilling with their same group of friends at the garage, or jamestown, or where ever. Cops and EMS are still comfortable dealing with situations the same as they always have dealt with situations. The only thing that can improve RP is each and every one of us stepping outside of our comfort zone and pushing ourselves. "Feedback and Suggestions" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 18 hours ago, DanielBos said: Just because something is being done by a lot of people doesnt make it right. calling something by its map reference is META. on an IRL map you woulnt say your address is page 284 G6.3? Just because some people have a hard time doesnt mean things should just be overlooked. As said people dont call it shop 5/8 or anything like that, so why have it for mechanics or anything else? this is failRP and meta. also one of the reasons I have stepped back from BLRP. I litterly just explained why that is done for mechanic shops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kota Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 While I agree it may not be the best way to advertise a shop it's there for a reason... Saying it's failrp or Meta is a bit dramatic honestly could it be changed yes. But honestly, I see no issue with it. I can live with a mechanic shop being labeled by 2/6 if it means that mechanic, in turn, gets work due to people being able to find it easier.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonEnd Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I feel for people who say it runs aground a bit of immersion, and I respect that (immersion is often very subjective, what 'breaks' it for someone might not for someone else. I personally think this is pretty trivial, but if some don't I get it. I just perceive it as an in-character GPS label / coordinate kind of thing. In all RP settings (MUDs, etc.) there are always small moments where immersion runs against the coded systems in place set to handle the roleplay, and often when it's (to me) smaller things like this it's usually treated as a 'hand-wavey' moment and just taken in stride so the RP can flow. I don't agree that it's 'failRP' or meta, that seems like a stretch. IMO for the sake of enjoyable RP and because of limited character slots and because from what I've read as a relative new player here that BLRP is a 'lighter' RP server, there are things 10x more egregious as far as breaking immersion going on (constant criminal civ life, get caught, 20 minutes in jail, clock into government job). I do get that referencing neighborhoods / streets feels more natural, and I don't think anyone much minds those who want to do it that way. It also probably just done to save limited ad character space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Cahill Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Maybe just add a new app to your phone called yellow pages or something and then you can post your shit there and if people need your shit then they can check that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Johnson Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 Problem is, it goes beyond just Twitter now. Everyone including police call it 2/6 in voice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRACKMASTER Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 When I was completely new, I didn't understand what 2/6 meant and was actually extremely frustrated by it as I had to ask "What is 2/6?" and then I ended up going to the LS Customs (where you get car repairs in GTA) 2/6 and said, "I'm at 2/6" to which the mechanic replied, "I think you're confused." and I literally said out loud "What the fuck! Just tell me where the fuck this place is!" Yeah, newb moment I know, but this kinda eliminates the argument that it's easier for newer players to understand a shop number over actual directions or nearby landmarks. Most likely people are afraid they might miss an extra couple bucks off people who might not show up if they don't use the shop number in their advertisement. But if mechanics used the street address more often, then people would know that just as well as they know it by the numbers now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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